The Ryan Hanley Show

The Ryan Hanley Show


Through interviews, stories, and research, Ryan Hanley examines how insurance professionals reach peak performance in life and business. Why subscribe to The Ryan Hanley Show? CURIOSITY. I’m curious about how people get better at the business of insurance. I’m curious about how people find meaning in their life. I’m curious about how people overcome obstacles (most notably the ones they put in front of themselves). I’m curious about life, our planet, aliens, drugs, money, government, and a million other things and over the course of the life of this podcast, we're going to try and examine them all. If you’re curious too, then you're in the right place.

Hosted By

Hosted By

Ryan Hanley

In this episode of The Ryan Hanley Show, Ryan Hanley sits down with Derek Hayden.

Derek Hayden is a Certified Risk Architect at Dansig Insurance Risk Advisors and winner of The Protege Reality Show.

I believe Derek is the epitome of a “Human-Optimized” agent. 

This is a tremendous conversation with a tremendous independent agent.

Don’t miss this episode…

Episode Highlights:

  • Derek discusses the hard market, and how they prepared for it. (7:13)
  • Derek mentions that clients are scared to make the first move, but it is now getting to the point where they are willing to open the box and see what can be done. (13:19)
  • Ryan mentions that one mistake they made was spreading their premium out too wide, and if he could do it again, he probably would take half the carrier appointments and just dial in writing business with those carriers. (22:27) 
  • Derek expresses frustration at the lack of give and take in the insurance industry and how carriers can just drop accounts after agents put in a lot of effort to make them less risky. (27:20)
  • Derek shares his own experience of feeling like a mere pawn in the industry despite his 11 years of experience. (35:20)
  • Derek shares that he uses video proposals for about 80% of his small commercial and personal lines proposals, and for larger accounts, he prefers to go in person. (42:03)
  • Derek shares how he sets up his video proposal for his clients. (49:34)
  • Derek suggests that smaller hometown insurance agents should develop a unique value proposition that can improve clients’ business or income, and take advantage of free tools offered by carrier reps to attract and retain accounts. (54:51)

Key Quotes:

  • “On those key accounts, those bigger prospects, I do the video submission. I feel like that changes. It’s more like, they feel like more a part of the account versus just reading something on paper. They feel like they can see the building through video, see what we’re doing.” – Derek Hayden
  • “All you got to do is develop a value proposition that’s unique compared to any other agent, whether it’s a captive or independent agent, develop a value proposition that you can consistently deliver, and follow through on.” – Derek Hayden

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